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and Support for the ME/CFS/FM Community Volume 7, Number 1: May 2010 Web site: http://www.davidsbell.com ————————————————————————————————— Negative Papers on XMRV On January 6, 2010, the first paper to refute the Lombardi et al.(1) paper in Science was published in the journal PLoS ONE: Failure to Detect the Novel Retrovirus XMRV in Chronic Fatigue syndrome.(2) It was bound to happen. Then came papers two and three, again polymerase chain reaction studies on stored blood(3, 4). Nothing in ME/CFS is easy, but this is the way it works in science. There are two possible scenarios: Scenario one is that several quick papers can't find it. The first paper was two months from idea to lab tests to writing to review to publication - that’s quick. The Science paper was two years in the making and the review process itself took six months! So, we may have a rush to judgement here. In this scenario the scientists will get discouraged and accept the inevitable - this is just another of many, many dead ends. The Science study will be quickly buried and forgotten. It has happened before. Scenario two is how science should work. Someone publishes a paper showing a virus called XMRV is found in persons with ME/CFS. Somebody else says it cannot be detected. And reading the fine print it turns out that one study uses heparinized tubes, the other ACD tubes. Then they collaborate and share data and work out some of the differences. And there are many, many differences. I remember that in 1990 I asked the Fedex driver to hold the samples in his lap because the back of the truck was frozen with Upstate New York January air. At that time I didn't know if freezing was going to alter the results. With each study we should learn something. A study may show different numbers and a slightly different sequence. We learn something. A scientist pokes holes in a colleagues paper. That colleague goes home, thinks about it and learns something. He or she comes back into the lab and does another experiment. It is a marvelous process. And I remain confident that we will arrive at the truth, whatever that is. And the papers published so far have not "failed to replicate," as none of them have tried to replicate. And, as Hilary Johnson has pointed out, there was an enormous rush to pin AIDS on HIV when it had been found in a couple of people. XMRV has been isolated from seventy five individuals. Dr. Nancy Klimas said in her lecture, "And if you see some negative papers coming out, don’t be discouraged. It’s going to happen. There are going to be some negative papers. People really jump to do this. And the method is not that easy, and getting the right bits and pieces you need together, it’s not: read the paper and then go do it." Quote of the Day "and I would like to be around when all those snarks have to swallow their vastly irritating lumps of hubris." I am not quite sure what it means but it was referring to the negative papers. Advocacy and Funding I have heard third hand that someone at the CFSAC meeting did not like the letter I wrote asking persons to contribute $10 each to the WPI. I agree, it is not the way science works. It is absurd to think that a few $10 bills will change anything. It is also a little embarrassing. Oh well. There have been over 5,000 scientific papers written on ME/CFS. Huge amounts of money have been spent on psychological studies, behavioral therapy studies. Even trying to define the illness has been impossible, but the money goes there as well. It may be time to put some research effort into good virology. But here is the letter I wrote. And I have sent in my $10 check. To my friends with ME/CFS, I would like to put out a personal appeal for funds to be sent to the Whittemore-Peterson Institute (WPI) in order to speed up the progress of the current research. Here is my reading of a very complex situation. ME/CFS Essay: Fatigue with and without Orthostatic Intolerance Over the past twenty five years I have had the opportunity to see lots of things through CFS colored glasses. For example there are all these case definitions and diagnostic criteria. Yet as the years pass I see patients who go from one set of criteria to another. Presently I am writing the twenty-five year follow-up paper. And some remarkable things have emerged. They are so remarkable, non-clinicians will not believe them. Here is an example. Mary got sick in 1985 with a typical mono-like illness and missed two years of school. She experienced the usual discrimination and physician abuse, except (I hope) in my office. She was for real. Strong, gutsy kid who kept up her studies despite not going to class. Her SAT scores were good and she went to college, part time at first, then almost full time and graduated. Fell in love, got married, had kids, had a job. She did great. In 1995 we published a "Thirteen year follow-up" and she was one of the recovered patients. 80% of the kids followed up at 13 years were doing well, and it is one of the reasons there has been the general perception that kids are more likely to recover. I had made a mistake and did not realize what I know now. So we do the 25 year follow up questionnaire. The first question on the SF-36 is "how do you rate your health?" excellent/very good/good/fair/poor are the response choices. Mary put down Very good. Then we look at her daily symptoms. Severe headaches. Moderate muscle and joint pain, doctors don't know what it is. Irritable bowel syndrome. Sleep is terrible. Memory and concentration is poor. Severe fatigue. When you look at all the questionnaire scores she is as bad as she was twenty five years ago. Except for one questionnaire. Her activity is 16 hours a day. She can function a whole day, so she can work and raise a family. At the beginning of her illness her activity was only three hours a day - that was why she could not attend school. The only thing that has improved is the orthostatic intolerance - the ability to function in the upright position. And that is why she feels that she has recovered. The daily somatic symptoms are an annoyance which she copes with very well; ignores in fact. It is ironic that her fatigue is severe, but without orthostatic intolerance, so she considers herself to be "recovered." But she has not recovered. She is still ill with all the symptoms of CFS except orthostatic intolerance. So when people say whether or not they are better, usually they refer only to that one central symptom that determines if you can function like a normal person. The degree of recovery is, in fact, merely the improvement of this one central symptom. As we are testing some persons for XMRV, it turns out that people who say they are well, may not be fully recovered. One person, a regular blood donor, considered herself pretty well after "recovering" from CFS. She was positive for XMRV. Do you call them a positive control or a positive XANDer who is doing pretty well? The studies to take place in the next few years are not for the faint of heart. Question and Answer Question: Answer: Excellent question. I would hope that the CDC and the Australian government are doing exactly this. 1. Lombardi V, Ruscetti F, Gupta J, Pfost M, Hagen K, Peterson D, et al. Detection of an infectious retrovirus, XMRV, in blood cells of patients with chronic fatigue syndrome. . Science. 2009;326(5952):595-89. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> To Subscribe: If you wish to either subscribe or unsubscribe to the Lyndonville News, go to http://www.davidsbell.com/DSBJoin.htm and enter your information. The e-mail subscription is free. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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